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Actually, I didn't set out to write a trilogy on neckwear, but sometimes one thing leads to another, right?
At first I wrote about "Black Tie versus White Tie" -- and thanks to a comment from Angela M, that article led to the next essay "Ascot or Tie?"
Then the Ascot article brought a comment from Lillian in New Hampshire that said: "I'm not clear on the difference between a cravat and an ascot. Would you mind elaborating? I've done a google search but I still haven't found a good comparative study."
Well, Ms. Lillian, you're not alone in this confusion. You'll hear as many unclear definitions as there are fashion consultants and related magazines in this world. But I'll be happy to add my two-cents and see if I can clear things up a bit.
Until recent times, all throughout history -- from ancient Persia to Greece and Rome -- men's fashions have been influenced by military uniforms. In fact, I think it was Alexander the Great who adopted a Persian fashion and introduced long pants into Europe.
Even the hippies bell-bottomed pants in the 1960's were pre-established by sailors in the U.S. Navy, right?
Continuing on this theme, in the mid 1600's, fashion-conscious King Louis XIV of France was intrigued by a style of neckwear worn by his Croatian mercenary soldiers. (And it's generally agreed that the name "cravat" comes from the mangled French pronunciation of their "Croat" guests.) Here's a link to the original Croat's cravats.
So, Louis Fourteen popularized the style -- and in it's varying shapes and knots over the centuries, it's also generally agreed that the cravat was the forerunner of all modern neckwear.
So the puzzlement as to exactly "what is a cravat" can be reduced to this:
(1) It's not only a specific shape of tie similar to what the Croats wore, but also (2) since it's the forerunner, the word "cravat" itself is used to describe almost all outside-the-collar neckwear, including modern-day ties and bowties.
And thus all the confusion -- because it's both specific, and general at the same time.
Does that help?
To elaborate, "outside-the-collar" means just that, over the shirt and around the neck. Some forms of formal wear allow the collar to stand up and you see the band of the tie all the way around the neck.
But in less formal dress, we usually fold the shirt collar down over the tie, like in a business suit, and we don't see the band around the neck -- unless you're really sloppy at this and the band peeks out!
By comparison, an ascot (neck scarf) is usually worn inside an open collar, against the flesh, usually with one simple knot to hold it in place. (But caution here. An ascot can also be worn outside the collar, even tied like a tie or bowtie!) Here's a link to Google images of ascots, both inside and outside the collar.
These neck scarves, by the way, were named "ascot" due to their popular daytime wear at the Royal Ascot horse races during the Edwardian age in England -- part of the morning suit, as opposed to the more formal dinner jacket.
Some say that neckwear was originally a form of bib to protect the shirt. Still others suggest it was a way of distracting the eye from an unclean shirt -- bearing in mind that laundromats and dry cleaners are relatively new in human history.
Both opinions are probably correct. But lets not forget that all clothing was originally about warmth, right? In equatorial climates we don't see much in the development or evolution of neckwear, do we?
Warmth or not, in modern times neckwear has become a mandatory ornamentation in a gentleman's dress and is worn year round -- even in the most hellacious summer climates. Go figure. (It's one of the circles of hell that men must endure, not unlike pumps and stilettos are for women!)
I seriously apologize for the unusual length of this post, but I hope it has provided some clarity.
For a closeup look at ascots and morning suits, here's a link to the hysterical Ascot Opening Race from the film "My Fair Lady". You've gotta see this!
Thanks for stopping by tonight.
Andrew
Andrew, if I may call you that, you give us so much information and laughter at the same time, which is why I keep reading. I have been reading for a long time but this is my first comment, because I have been confused about cravts, too. You have definitely cleared some things up, and I appreciate your insight.
ReplyDeleteMary J.
Thank you for saying that, Mary J.
DeleteFor me, sharing knowledge (not to mention a little gossip along the way) is the must fun thing about writing this blog. And I'm very happy if you've found something helpful!
And yes, do call me Andrew. "Mr Williams" is my father. Ha!
Andrew
Hi Andrew,
ReplyDeleteI just want to thank you for this wonderful page. I do really enjoy every single blog entry. I just have two questions if you don't mind . 1.What kind of books wealth people read or what do they read in general? 2. Do they believe in GOD? Thanks again and wishing all the best in life.
HUGS
Hello Erme,
DeleteThanks for your questions, but since everyone is so different, there's no way to give a generalized answer. Some rich people believe in God, others don't. Around here my employers are generous donors to their church, although they don't go very often. And at family gatherings, such as Thanksgiving and Christmas, there's a prayer said before the meal -- although it seems a mere formality.
The same for reading, as eveyone has different tastes and interests. In this house you'll always see the latest books from the New York Times Bestseller List. And on the breakfast table there's always the Wall Street Journal, as well as the NY Times.
Thanks for reading, and for your interest.
Andrew
Hello friend!
ReplyDeleteDidn't want a darn thing. Just popped in to tell you I'm still around and reading. Cravats and ties. Nothing like a handsome man in elegant neckwear! Anyway, life on the farm is exciting as usual. Today I mowed the front pasture with about 30 sheep and my trusted Australian shepherd to keep the mowers in place. Tomorrow I'm off to buy a few tons of grain. Yippee!
Looking forward to the fall and my favorite time of year. I love the fall holidays best! My birthday is next Monday, the 24th. I plan on lunch with girlfriends at my favorite Mexican place. What is going on at the big house in prep for the holidays this year?
Best to you,
MemphisGirl
Hi Memphis Girl! Nice to hear from you. Who's NOT looking forward to autumn, after this brutal summer and drought.
DeleteMy employers are not getting along, and I have a feeling the holiday preperations will be subdued this year. Now is when we usually start planning, but thus far no word whatsoever. Very strange indeed.
Happy Birthday to you on the twenty-fourth! Hope you have a fun celebration!
Andrew
So where does the bow-tie fit into the mess?
ReplyDeleteHey Justin, thanks for jumping in.
DeleteLets not get confused. The bowtie is just another form of KNOT. But it's still a cravat or tie. There are many ways to tie a tie -- there's the Windsor knot, the half-Windsor, the Prince Albert, the four-in-hand knot, and the bow.
Historians can't agree on who first friviously tied their ties into a bow, but it's usually traced back to the Croats themselves, the originators of modern day ties.
Hope all is well in your world.
Andrew